Talk:List of islands of England
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[edit]Barrow Island is not an island and should be removed - 79.65.171.203 (talk) 08:12, 23 June 2019 (UTC) 79.65.171.203 (talk) 08:14, 23 June 2019 (UTC)Ian in Wales79.65.171.203 (talk) 08:14, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
- I've removed it to the list of 'places called island that are not islands'. cheers Geopersona (talk) 06:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Should there be a separate heading for islands in rivers and lakes, like Eel Pie Island? Grutness|hello? 05:58, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea - I'll create one. Warofdreams 09:51, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Denton
[edit]In Newhaven, Sussex, the River Ouse was artificially straightened to produce a harbour, and a chunk of land of about 2 acres was left surrounded on all sides by river. It is called Denton Island, and is genuinely surrounded by water. Shall I put it in?--Anthony.bradbury 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- aye, no reason not to. --Robdurbar 23:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Linking
[edit]This article shows the need for consensus guidelines for "overlinking" in lists.
In this article some locations are linked only on the first occurrence, some are linked every time. WP generally disfavours overlinking. If a term is linked only at its earliest appearance a reader reading from the top has already had a chance to explore the term, but a list is less likely to be read continuously from the top and so overlinking obviates the need to scroll, possibly in vain, to find the sole link.--SilasW (talk) 08:36, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Please preview
[edit]The article has a block of editing where a square bracket seems to be missing from every item. If only we weren't so keen to get "our" snippets in "print" and understood the need to check that what we had written was what we intended. (OK. The phone rang, the kettle whistled, the cat jumped on to the keyboard, we all have those moments.)--SilasW (talk) 08:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Combine the tables
[edit]The various sortable tables should be combined into one so the utility of its being sortable would be of benefit rather than being not much more than a pretty feature.--SilasW (talk) 10:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've put the remaining material into sortable lists but think that there may be an argument for re-integrating the Lake District islands with the 'elsewhere' list and perhaps adding the content of the separate Thames islands page too. A table with three columns - all of them sortable - for i) island name, ii) water body and iii) general location (eg Lake District or Broads) might work best. Comment? Geopersona (talk) 09:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- I still think a reduction in the number of lists would be advantageous - let's say three: one for maritime islands (the inshore/offshore list modified), another for freshwater islands (the inland list modified with the Lake District and freshwater Thames islands incorporated) and a third for 'non-islands'. Provide four sortable columns in each case - i)name, ii) location, ii) area & iv) population - or five if we want areas in both metric and imperial units. Any comment? cheers Geopersona (talk) 20:44, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's a bit of work but yes, this would make for a better article. --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 14:09, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
- I still think a reduction in the number of lists would be advantageous - let's say three: one for maritime islands (the inshore/offshore list modified), another for freshwater islands (the inland list modified with the Lake District and freshwater Thames islands incorporated) and a third for 'non-islands'. Provide four sortable columns in each case - i)name, ii) location, ii) area & iv) population - or five if we want areas in both metric and imperial units. Any comment? cheers Geopersona (talk) 20:44, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
What about the Isle of Anglesey?
[edit]Shouldn't that be included as well? Jprulestheworld01 (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- See List of islands of Wales - it's not in England. Pterre (talk) 08:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Isle of Wight is Great British also.The English Channel leads to the Ocean(s). Wikipedia should have been renamed after merchant bankers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.156.14 (talk) 21:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Isle of Portland
[edit]I have removed this place from the list of islands on this page since it quite clearly is not an island. It is linked to the British mainland by a natural shingle spit. I have at the same time removed the 'contradictory' note against its appearance on the list of 'islands' which are not islands, which had been applied because it appeared in both lists! It is likely that it has been an island in the past and may well be an island again in the future but presently it is not. It is the tip of a peninsula, albeit an unusual one, and is also a tied island. Debate over much of this also occurs on the main Isle of Portland page.
Geopersona (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
'inland' v. 'inshore/offshore'
[edit]I've removed two islands from the former table and put them into the latter as they are both bodies of land surrounded by seawater, in common with other such islands in Langstone Harbour etc. Previously they had sat within a list, one of the preambles to which implied that they were surrounded by freshwater. Bridgemarsh Island probably ought to be treated similarly as it too is surrounded by tidal seawater. cheers Geopersona (talk) 20:38, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
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Addition of Lothingland
[edit]An IP has usefully added Lothingland to three of the lists. I'm slightly unsure about its addition to the first list as that is essentially a list of coastal islands. Now Lothingland is on the coast but it is the channels of the Waveney and Yare (partly through Breydon Water) and the Oulton Broad/Lake Lothing connections which make it an island, otherwise it appears to be a part of the mainland. All of these waterways are tidally influenced, Lake Lothing is saltwater but is Oulton Broad salt or freshwater? If the latter, might the island best be placed in the 'river islands list? It may well be pretty much in a category of its own, such are its peculiar circumstances. Perhaps at the least a note is added. I'd note that in the same area is a watercourse-bound island labelled by Ordnance Survey as 'The Island', framed by the Yare, the Waveney and New Cut - though it seems already to have been listed in the article as Haddiscoe or Chedgrave island (and referenced re the former name). There are arguably other 'river islands' in the fens which are bounded by major drainage channels e.g. perhaps The Hundred Foot Washes. cheers Geopersona (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- If we consider as islands regions separated by rivers and artificial channels then the Trent and Mersey Canal crosses England east–west hence creating two "islands" (at least). Thincat (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yes, it could all get rather silly, couldn't it!? I'm presuming in this case that the water is all 'at a level'; indeed each channel is indicated as tidal so that must be the case, slight fall due to tidal and river current apart. Geopersona (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, tidal. Thincat (talk) 16:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well, yes, it could all get rather silly, couldn't it!? I'm presuming in this case that the water is all 'at a level'; indeed each channel is indicated as tidal so that must be the case, slight fall due to tidal and river current apart. Geopersona (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)