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It’s Lebanese territory that is occupied. This is not disputed at all.

The occupation of Shebaa is not disputed. Lead paragraph is misleading. Lebanesebebe123 (talk) 13:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I clarified what had become muddled over the years. nableezy - 14:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Looks great Lebanesebebe123 (talk) 05:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelled Word

Occupied is written as occupued thanks to 13 day old edit. 68.180.95.120 (talk) 01:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks. Zero^talk 02:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

fix text

In 1981, the Golan Heights, including the Shebaa Farms, were annexed by Israel, a move only recognized by the United States. Israel considers it part of the Golan Heights ++++AND++++ continues to hold it, along with the Golan, under military occupation. please add the word 'AND' above, or whatever is required. Wikiqrdl (talk) 22:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fixed. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 07:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Military Occupation?

Given that Israel annexed the Golan Heights (including the Shebaa farms), I think it's incorrect to say the area is under "military occupation", the way that the West Bank is. It's a territory in dispute, yes, but not under occupation. Jeb1075 (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Original: Attacks by Hezbollah Between 2000 and 2005, Hezbollah attacked the IDF at Shebaa/Har Dov 33 times, resulting in seven Israeli soldiers killed in action, three taken prisoner, and dozens wounded.[24]

On 26 April 2024, an Israeli Bedouin truck driver was killed at Har Dov during infrastructure works as a result of an anti-missile strike by Hezbollah.[25][26]

Change "anti-missile strike" to "anti-tank missile(ATGM) strike" 108.183.193.234 (talk) 18:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done - excluding (ATGM) acronym, I can't read the Hebrew source, but the English source doesn't mention it being an anti-tank guided missile Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 02:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of WP:NPOV and possible WP:TE

I have reverted the recent edits by @GreekParadise. The changes were striking, and in the lede, and were not backed up by the sources in the article. I have left a note on the user's talk page, but thought I'd clarify here for others who saw the reversion.

Unsourced changes to the lede here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shebaa_Farms&diff=prev&oldid=1248099257

Here are additional changes which are sourced, but the sources don't seem to back up the argument made in Wikivoice: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shebaa_Farms&diff=next&oldid=1248099257

For example, the BBC article used as a ref contradicts the new text and supports the old: "Syria agrees with Lebanon that the Shebaa farms area is part of Lebanon." It does include a comment by someone at the UN that the farms should be considered in Syria, but that should be attributed, and not said in Wikivoice.

The Palestine-Israel Journal is quoted multiple times for the same argument, making it WP:UNDUE. The UN link is broken. The PDF linked backs up much the same account as the text that was altered with the subsequent edits.

I think we need some better sources if that text should replace what's there currently. Lewisguile (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, claims like "the Syrian government has never agreed the land is Lebanese" are simply false. Although Syria has not shown any urgency for a formal border demarcation with Lebanon, the public position of the government since 2000 has been that the SF are Lebanese. Look at Syrian state media for the current position. This article is one I have been meaning to completely revise with better sources. But I'm a slow editor... Zero^talk 02:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please feel free to sink your teeth in! It definitely needs some work. Lewisguile (talk) 10:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]