Talk:Ronald Wayne

Lost faith

"soon lost faith in the company and sold his stock for $900", linked source at http://news.com.com/2009-1023-259624.html says $800, is this value more likely correct?

hey $800 was a lot of money back then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.182.92.74 (talk) 20:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Who Is Ronald Wayne?

I was a Bay Area business reporter in the 1980s and know the history of Apple as well as anyone could. Apple was founded by Jobs, Woz and Markkula. No Wayne was ever in the company. We need to delete this bogus article. George415 (talk) 20:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you read the sources provided in the article? What facts do you dispute? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 22:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I dispute the contention that Ronald Wayne co-founded Apple Computer. As I said, all the "history of Apple" books list Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak and Mike Markkula as the company's founders. Therefore, the article is bogus. Right? Shouldn't we delete a bogus article? George415 (talk) 18:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

So far we have as sources:

- CNet

- a 1999 book by Owen W. Linzmayer (4.5 stars on Amazon.com, with a 5-star rating by Jef Raskin, which begins "Of all the books written on Apple's history, this one comes closest to accurately relating the story of how the Mac was created"), and

- Woz himself, on his own website, in answer to a direct question about Wayne

I think that's enough to convince most people that this is not "bogus". You'd need some pretty strong evidence (not just omission in other books) to convince me that Mr. Wayne wasn't the third cofounder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.71.175.177 (talk) 01:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

The reason why they didn't view him as a co-founder was because he had no share in the company (as he had sold all his shares "only two weeks later") and as to Mike Markkula - he was probably the one who bought them all

Mike Markkula's Involvement in Apple
He was lured out of retirement after Steve Jobs, who was referred to him by Regis McKenna and Don Valentine[1], a venture capitalist who was not interested in funding Apple, visited him and convinced him of the market for the Apple II and personal computers in general. In 1977, Markkula brought his business expertise along with US$250,000 ($80,000 as an equity investment in the company and $170,000 as a loan) and became a one-third owner of Apple and employee number 3.[2] He also brought in Apple's first president, Michael Scott, then took the job himself from 1981 to 1983. Markkula served as chairman from 1985 until 1997, when a new board was formed after Jobs returned to the company. Wozniak, who single-handedly created the first two Apple computers, credits Markkula for the success of Apple more than himself. [3]

The guy who started this section is just a little confused, that's all. "Mike Markkula was introduced to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak when they were looking for funding to manufacture the Apple II personal computer they had developed, after having sold some units of the first version of this computer, the Apple I. With this guidance and funding, Apple ceased to be a partnership and was incorporated as a company." --Fresh Start (talk) 10:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Ronald Wayne was one of the three original founders of Apple as a partnership, but he left soon afterwards. Mike Markkula joined as employee no 3 of Apple Inc. Apple Inc succeeded Apple partnership. FreeFlow99 (talk) 10:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

He claimed that he didn't regret selling the stock

"He claimed that he didn't regret selling the stock" - translation: "He does" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.133.74.225 (talk) 05:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The full quote is

He claimed that he didn't regret selling the stock as he had made the "best decision with the information available to me at the time."

he had more to lose than the others so he doesn't regret it as it was an intelligent decision that anyone with a smidgen of intelligence would have made at the time --Fresh Start (talk) 10:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Quote?

What's the Wikipedia citation policy on quotes? "He holds a dozen patents, but has never had enough capital to make money off any of them" is basically directly copied from the source #8. 98.182.39.84 (talk) 22:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Ownership of Apple products

I've reverted all the recent changes regarding Wayne's ownership of Apple products. Up until recently, this was true. But as the recent edits have noted, he was given an iPad at the Update conference. I have no reason to doubt this. But Wikipedia reports only things which are verifiable according to a reliable source. A photo on Instagram isn't enough to source a claim like this. If the gift at the conference is reported in a third-party reliable source, then it can be included.

But this presents us with an interesting issue: if he does now own an Apple product, then the earlier reports that he doesn't are no longer valid even though reliably sourced. So in order to abide by WP:RS, I've removed both the claim that he doesn't and that he does until we get a reliable source. I'm perfectly amenable to changing my view and if anyone wants to argue that the photo is a reliable source, I'll happily defer to consensus. —Tom Morris (talk) 08:59, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

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What was he?

According to the Wikipedia MoS, we should begin the article with So-and-so is an American engineer, banker, baker, butcher, etc. This article starts with what he did, not what he is. I know he's retired, but was he an engineer or something else? I can infer entrepreneur, but what else? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 19:53, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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$2,300

The $2,300 is for two things a year apart. $800 is to give up his shares. $1,500 is to agree not to sue to get them back. Two different things.--Tenebrae (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

And it looks like Ylee and I reached a middle ground that addresses both our concerns. All good. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Clear History film inspiration?

Does anyone know if his life was part of the inspiration for the HBO film Clear History? There are definitely some parallels. Coinmanj (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)