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Photo

Could we get a better picture somehow? The current photo is blurry almost to the point of uselessness Passdoubt | Talk 03:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An Awfully Sympathetic Listing, Despite Mention Of Scandals

No mention is made of the racially divisive rhetoric strewn around by the Street Campaigns[1], nor the egregious amount of City patronage directed at Street's immediate family, including his wife, brother [2], and son. Lack of indictments should not insulate Street from legitimate charges of incompetence and corruption.

I am sure Mayor Street has this entry watched and cleaned up. Dirk Pitt 17:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Norristown... in a farming household

I'm guessing that he was born in Norristown but moved down South, possibly to Alabama? The article doesn't really make that clear. Where did this farming take place? Rural Montgomery County? Even in 1950, nobody in Norristown proper was farming. Passdoubt | Talk 05:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth

I fixed the date of birth. Street was born on October 15, 1943, not December 4, 1945. J-Red 01:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Outtaherephils[reply]

Anti Combat Violence Initiative

I added his new anti violence programs that launched last night to the Policy section. User:GShton 01:16, 28, July 2006 (UTC)

POV tag

This section uses weasel words and ignores the fact that the boy scouts do discriminate against homosexuals. Someone who knows whats up should clean this up. Desertsky85451 02:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. First, the section states verifiably factual information. Secondly, the city continues to rent space to other organizations that discriminate against homosexuals including religious organizations. Third, the section relates back to specific political practices of the mayor. Finally, the section appears to be written without inflammatory language. Unless other input suggests differently, I will remove the POV signal no earlier than 8/31/06. Jpetersen46321 22:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cite anti-homosexual discrimination by other organizations. Wikify the section. Remove the word allegedly; the boy scouts do discriminate against gays; (there was a supreme court case about it a while back, you may remember hearing about). Remove the POV tag, and I'll just keep putting it back until this section doesn't read like it was written by an angry boy scout. Desertsky85451 19:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In response to editor Desertsky: In the US, an entity accused of violating a statute is afforded an opportunity in court to defend itself. Until convicted, the defendant is "alleged" to have performed the act. Here, the controversy arises from the mayor announcing that the Boy Scouts are discriminatory and then applying punitive sanctions without due process of law. I agree with you that the Boy Scouts discriminate against homosexuals. Nevertheless, the Supreme Court case to which you refer (Boy Scouts of Am. v. Dale, 528 U.S. 1109) held that a state could NOT apply anti-discrimination statutes to a private organization. Here, the issue is NOT whether the Boy Scouts discriminate against homosexuals, rather the issue is whether the city can selectively enforce a possibly unconstitutional ordinance. Perhaps you can improve the language to convey this message which I invite you to do. Finally, I am adding citation. OK? Jpetersen46321 02:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not disputing their right to discriminate, but was pointing out that they do and reminding you of the court case as proof. Your paragraph used the word allegedly, which is totaly BS. I've fixed the section to remove tricky words. Desertsky85451

I have changed some of your language in order to neutralize any point of view issues.Jpetersen46321 20:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the Mayor's policy on the Boy Scouts warrent a section unto itself. Would this not be more appropriate under the Policy section above? Micahmj11 20:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you, but I think that Jpetersen46321 is an angry boy scout from the delaware valley and feels that this 'injustice' warrents its own section. Desertsky85451 15:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bozo

I read a short article in the Inquirer today about how someone added the false claim to this article that Street played Bozo the Clown. It looks like the offending addition was done by 70.156.131.74, someone rightly removed it as unverified a few days later, but it was then re-added by 12.198.160.151 in the name of "fighting vandalism", his first-ever edit no less. With the mild publicity in the Inquirer it may be a good idea to keep an eye on the page. Krimpet 14:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah its currently on the main page with the teaser of "Some clown breaks into Street's Wikipedia page". First class journalism. Slow news day, no one murdered over the weekend, just wounded. ccwaters 15:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Been picked up by Governing: http://governing.typepad.com/13thfloor/2007/01/more_wiki_wacki.html 68.39.174.238 13:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another Street

T. Milton Street Sr. who in 1978 was elected to the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and in 1980 to the Pennsylvania State Senate, does he desrve an article? --evrik ^(talk) 20:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps:

Isn't he a self-declared candidate for mayor?[3]
He's the brother of the current mayor, and makes headlines all on his own. See Roger Clinton, Jr..

- CobaltBlueTony 21:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, is this the dad or something??? - CobaltBlueTony 21:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we should add him to this page Philadelphia mayoral election, 2007? --evrik ^(talk) 21:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Milton Street is a well-known public figure in the city in his own right, for his business dealings and political ambitions as well as his relations to his brother, and as CobaltBlueTony mentioned his antics make the press often, asserting his notability. I'd say he certainly warrants his own article. Krimpet 23:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good work guys ... --evrik ^(talk) 14:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Camping for an iPhone

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/philadelphia-mayor-caught-camping-for-an-iphone/#comments --Dennis Valeev 17:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070629/ap_on_hi_te/apple_iphone_mayor;_ylt=AlNvq3_QZcfg.dGN8TSoTb7MWM0F -- TeeJay

Mayor Streets did end up getting an iPhone http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070629/ap_on_hi_te/apple_iphone_mayor;_ylt=AoJ6On9MLpBK8jOp4ZV_.sLMWM0F -- Tee Jay

Larry West continues to vandalize this section with claims that he approached Street. This is unsourced, unimportant, and most importantly just vanity edits on his part. Luv Skull/Larry West, please stop vandalizing other's pages simply because your vanity page was deleted on merit. Curious27 (talk) 03:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I note that this story was readded here. I have reverted the edit. Nelson50^T 19:08, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

House Fire

Has anyone seen this from a Philly news source?128.91.45.1 19:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous Information

The following statement has no place in the Policy section: "Since 2000, the average home in Philadelphia has appreciated by approximately 30 percent, and the population of Center City grew by 14 percent between 1990 and 2000." It contains events that occurred before Street's reign as mayor of Philadelphia, and therefore, not relevant to his policies while mayor. Further, the statement is a non-sequitor, using evidence about a Center City population boon between 1990 and 2000 to explain a growth in home value after 2000. The causal connection is tenuous and poorly worded.--146.145.125.131 15:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aproval rating?

Can someone tell me his aproval rating? It seems to me he would have really low ratings. ForeverDEAD 14:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NIT Source

The section on NTI currently contains says the following

"However, initial results have been positive. Since 2000, the average home in Philadelphia has :appreciated by approximately 30 percent. The housing market continues to thrive, and developers :have created more than 4,880 market-rate apartments and condominiums in the past several years"

The citation given is to a broken link (Phila.gov apparently no longer has a section for NTI since the program is discontinued). I tried to Wayback Machine it and was informed that the page could not be archived because Phila.gov blocks bots or something along those lines. Does anyone know what the original source said? Either way, i suspect the passage should be rewritten a bit. NTI is far from being considered a success and the appreciation of home values has a lot more to do with national trends than NTI. I would change it myself but the page appears to be semi protected and I haven't logged on to Wiki in years - can't for the life of me rememeber my password. --155.247.155.128 (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An actual citation with criticism of NTI [4]

--155.247.155.128 (talk) 22:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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