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On 7 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from James V of Scotland to James V. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Was he an immature, erratic and exceptionally violent person? He definitely had disturbed teenage years, perhaps (almost) psychotic?

What about "subdueing the border rebels"; is this the same as summarily executing people without trial? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.49.166.122 (talk • contribs) 14:47, 23 November 2004

anyone object me adding the that he was fond of dressing as a commoner and going out conversing with commoners without revealing his identity apart from one occasion, I dont have the source handy but Im trying to find it. If/when I do, anyone have any objections to this info being in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benson85 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 2 August 2005

I think it would be best to find a definite source first, as this is a common myth told about kings (though, of course, some probably actually did so). Perhaps add it to the "References" at the end. --BlueMoonlet 14:03, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The 'king as commoner' story is based on legend, and best highlighted as such. Rcpaterson 19:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just read the very interesting book, A Prince of Good Fellows by Robert Barr (writer), which records several anecdotal stories about James V, many of them relating to his adventures while traveling incognito (sometimes as the Guidman of Ballengeich, sometimes not). The dedication at the front of the book suggests that it is not presented as fiction: "To Thomas Spencer Jerome on his Villa of the Castle on the Island of Capri, this book is respectfully dedicated, with the hope that some of the facts herein set forth may aid him during his historical researches." Unfortunately, Mr. Barr does not provide any sources for the stories he narrates in his volume, and I have not been able to find any commentary as to their historical accuracy, so I do not know if it is of any use as a reference or source of material for this Wikipedia article. --96.251.14.5 (talk) 15:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solway Moss

I've made a small change here, because the way it was written implied that James was personally present at the battle. Rcpaterson 19:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

language deprivation experiment

On the source page it says the children were reported to have spoken good Hebrew but the article claims neither child ever spoke. Can someone please provide additional sources or change the article? 80.121.62.57 (talk) 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is story told of James IV, the father of James V, its single source is Robert Lindsay of Pitscottie's History of Scotland, as it happens Lindsay writes that he heard the child never spoke but it has been said they spoke hebrew. 87.115.27.7 (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The lead needs to be expanded. Surely more can be added than that he was King of Scots until his death--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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IMHO, we should be showing his successor's name as Mary I, since there's also a Mary II. -- GoodDay (talk) 08:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can make out, none of the sources used in the article call her Mary I. DrKay (talk) 08:29, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yet that's who she is. The first Queen regnant of Scotland, who's named Mary. GoodDay (talk) 08:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cockburn of Henderland

I have removed entry in surname article Cockburn (surname) as having no link to an article. Someone knowledgeable or interested could rectify the lack.

[[William Cockburn of Henderland (border reiver)]] (d. 1530), border reiver who was executed by order of King James V of Scotland Doug butler (talk) 15:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He seems to be the last monarch to die in Scotland for 480 years.

He seems to be the last monarch to die in Scotland for 480 years until Queen Elizabeth the Second. JOEYTHEVIMSANTEPOET (talk) 12:57, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry it is in the article also. JOEYTHEVIMSANTEPOET (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it is in the article, what is your point in mentioning it here? —Tamfang (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can we assume good faith? Cremastra (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 June 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move; while opinion was evenly divided, those supporting had the stronger arguments. However, should WP:NCROY change as a result of this RfC, this should be reverted without additional discussion. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James V of Scotland → James V – The Scottish king appears to be the WP:PRIMARYMEANING of "James V". Векочел (talk) 17:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Biography has been notified of this discussion. Векочел (talk) 02:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per nominator. Killuminator (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, it already redirects here, and there appears to be no other James V for this to possibly be confused with. Seltaeb Eht (talk)
Oppose. The resulting scheme (James IV of Scotland → James V → Mary, Queen of Scots → James VI and I → James II of England) is not an improvement. It's already bad enough. I reiterate for the umpteenth time my objection to the underlying rationale of these RMs. The Führer is the primary meaning of Hitler and the painter is the primary meaning of Picasso, yet nobody argues for moving them. Srnec (talk) 04:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For Hitler and Picasso the standard <First name> <Last name> format is recommended by WP:NCP. Here that format is not an option. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus can change, see WP:CCC. PatGallacher (talk) 12:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:NCROY: unambiguous and already a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, already redirects there and there aren't similarly named articles which could cause confusion. Suonii180 (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Britannica, it doesn't even appear to be ambiguous. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Srnec. I continue to oppose pre-emptive disambiguation, in this case mainly on the grounds that the monarchs of Scotland have the "of Scotland" switched on and off for reasons which have to do with events in e.g. Majorca, not Scotland. If you read his Britannica article properly the title is actually "James V King of Scotland", not any different from e.g. his grandfather "James III King of Scotland", who is clearly not the primary topic. PatGallacher (talk) 20:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a subtitle just like Wolverhampton has "district, England, United Kingdom". Crouch, Swale (talk) 06:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand this reasoning. You oppose pre-emptive disambiguation, but you also oppose its removal? Please clarify. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I support pre-emptive disambiguation, I oppose its removal. How Britannica organises its articles is basically its own business, but if you examine it carefully you will see that these subtitles do sometimes act as disambiguators, e.g. Perth has the subtitle "City in Scotland", nobody believes that it is the primary meaning. PatGallacher (talk) 12:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Srnec. Dimadick (talk) 11:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Srnec. SnowFire (talk) 16:54, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Srnec. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.