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    September 26

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    References number 3 and 6 are in red - they are journals I think so I don't know what I have done wrong. Please fix if able. Thanks 2001:4479:4F03:7700:6985:18B7:638D:D873 (talk) 00:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    As the message in red says, for {{Cite Journal}} you need to add "|journal=" along with the name of the Journal. If they are not journals, you need to use a different template. RudolfRed (talk) 00:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have tried - but the word "Journal" is already there - I find this very hard. Sorry. Thanks regardless for your patience. 2001:4479:4F03:7700:6985:18B7:638D:D873 (talk) 01:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Journals have names. If you use Template: Cite journal, then you must provide the name of the journal, or you get an error message. If the publications are not journals, then use another template. Cullen328 (talk) 01:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One of these references is for the sentence "[The article subject's] son, C. Lloyd Morgan, attended Clifton College, Bristol in the 1890s alongside R.N. Middleton." Why is the reader being told which school somebody's son went to? What's significant about having had this Middleton fellow alongside you when you went to school? ("R.N. Middleton" is linked to Middleton family, but to no particular place within the latter, perhaps because it doesn't mention him.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hoary, I think R.N. Middleton is (Richard) Noël Middleton (1878–1951), who is mentioned in Middleton family (I searched for Clifton in the article). TSventon (talk) 01:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps indeed so, TSventon. But I think my main objection stands. Depending on the meaning of "alongside", I would have had from a score to several hundred pupils "alongside" me when I was at a secondary school. I doubt that I even knew the names of more than a couple of dozen of them, and also doubt that I was influenced by, or that I influenced, more than half a dozen. If my father were the subject of an article here (he isn't), I wouldn't understand why anything about my schooling appeared in that article. (Yes, yes, of course there could be reasons: e.g. my father publicly espoused equal opportunities for all but covertly had me educated privately.) (Update: Orangemike deleted this from the article -- whereupon 175.38.37.197 reinserted much of it.) -- Hoary (talk) 03:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, they dragged the Middleton trivia back into the article. I removed that, as well as a fluffy self-published source which described Morgan as having give "a fascinating lecture" somewhere. --Orange Mike | Talk 11:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Refs 3 and 4 are all wrong - please fix if you can. Thank you, 175.38.37.197 (talk) 09:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you not read the responses to your thread posted above, a few hours ago? Qcne (talk) 09:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Qcne: This is most likely Srbernadette, who is usually logged out while editing and asks at the help desk semi-frequently whenever they make the mistake of not adding |journal= when using {{cite journal}}, or when they accidentally add an extra 0 to the date and it throws an error as a result. This has been going on for years; searching for Lupton, Martineau (added 01:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)) or Middleton in the help desk archives should give you an idea of how long this has been going on (added 01:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The second support at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive993 § Srbernadette topic ban from HD and indefinite block proposal (2018) summarises our frequent customer here finely: nothing but good intentions but a completely baffling incapacity for learning even the simplest fixes for their constant errors.
    I've helped fix their mistakes before, and probably will again, but it is a matter of public record that all attempts to educate this editor on basic template syntax have been proven by ordeal to be strictly ineffectual. Folly Mox (talk) 04:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Need guidance

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    Where can I report a user with promotional username and spam linking to administrators... Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention, Vestrian24Bio, but be sure to read the small print at the top of that page before posting. -- Hoary (talk) 05:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Got it, thanks! Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 09:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Manual of Style for "notable people" lists

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    Can someone help me sus out if there is any established Manual of Style or guidelines for lists of "notable people" within articles? I'm specifically looking at Chinese people in Korea#Notable people. Would this fall under the scope of WP:APO/S, or does that standard strictly concern given name/surname list articles?

    At present, the list looks a mess and is extremely hard to read.

    If it falls under WP:APO/S I think it'll be fairly straightforward to strip out all the mess and bring it in line with that standard.

    If it's not under WP:APO/S, my main questions would be:

    • Should entries on the list who do not have their own Wikipedia article be removed? I'd assume if they don't meet WP:NOTABILITY, they're not qualified for a "notable people" list...
    • What's going on with the "(Originally from)" parts? I haven't seen that in any other "notable people" list.
    • Specifically for the band members section, when one band has multiple members that would be included in the list, should they each have their own entry in the list? Right now everything listed per group, not per person.

    Feel free to direct me elsewhere if there might be a better place for this discussion. RachelTensions (talk) 02:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It does seem to fall under WP:APO/S, so feel free to make the changes. If another editor oppose to or revert your changes, then hold a discussion at the associated talk page. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that the guidance you need is at MOS:LIST. The title section of APO/S shows it is about articles about surnames or given names or both. TSventon (talk) 13:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was reading MOS:LIST but I didn't see anything relating to standards for lists of people so I thought APO/S might be the closet thing we have. RachelTensions (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you looking for WP:LISTCRITERIA? It is linked from MOS:LIST. TSventon (talk) 13:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That helps, thanks! RachelTensions (talk) 13:18, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Two articles on the same person

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    I've encountered this situation before, but it's been so long I don't exactly remember where to go. I am 100% certain that Dan Robinson (American football) and Dan Robinson (politician) are articles about the same guy. Rusted AutoParts 03:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Rusted AutoParts: I agree sources say they are the same person. You could follow the process at WP:MERGETEXT or just tag them as at WP:MERGEPROP. TSventon (talk) 03:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jweiss11: Dan Robinson (politician) was created in 2006 and you created Dan Robinson (American football) in 2019. Would you be interested in merging your article into the older article? The 2022 obituaries in each article confirm that the politician and the American footballer are the same man. TSventon (talk) 12:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    TSventon, thanks for the heads up here. I went ahead and merged the two articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Jweiss11, @Rusted AutoParts: now sorted. TSventon (talk) 20:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks much, I intended to come back and begin the merge proposal but I got waylaid. Thanks @TSventon: for spearheading this. Rusted AutoParts 21:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rusted AutoParts: I hoped that Jweiss11 would be interested in doing the merge as they had written one of the articles and they were. One loose end was that the Wikidata items needed to be merged, but there were two bot translated ar Wikipedia articles. I asked an editor there and they merged the articles and Wikidata items. TSventon (talk) 22:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia project pages for requesting the splitting or merging of templates and modules

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    Which Wikipedia project pages can users like me go to, to request the splitting or merging of templates and modules, WP:TFD, or WP:SPLIT and WP:MERGE? PK2 (talk; contributions) 03:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Usually you can go to the wikiproject that is relevant to the topic of the templates or modules. There is also WP:WPT, but from its talk page it doesn't seem to be very active. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you comment on an RfC you started?

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    So, RfCs have to neutrally worded, unlike RM, AfD, etc. But, after you've posed the neutrally worded question, can you reply to your question with a response? Making it obvious that this is a response to the question (just by putting it in the normal format, i.e. "Support X because Y" on an indented line) </MarkiPoli> <talk /><cont /> 07:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @MarkiPoli Absolutely. Like you say, the question needs to be neutral, but in the discussion itself, you can have opinions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to criticize a Wikiproject?

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    I've been annoyed by the WikiProject for where I live: Kuwait. Why? Because no efforts were made to fix tons of misinformation, stub articles and outdated information about Kuwait. Other than vandalising, how do I criticize the Wikiproject mentioned? FSlolhehe (talk) 14:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I suggest that you be bold and either join the project and / or fix the articles yourself. Let other editors know where help is needed the most, but don't make any personal attacks, and remember, there is no deadline for you or anybody else to edit Wikipedia. Also, it'd probably be wise if you didn't suggest your intentions to vandalize Wikipedia if nobody else fixes the articles. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:21, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @FSlolhehe: Editors are volunteers. They are judged by what they do, not what they haven't done. WikiProject Kuwait is just a few volunteers who have added their name to the member list. It doesn't make them responsible for the state of articles about Kuwait, and anyone can edit those articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict), WP:KW is tagged as semi-active, it may actually be inactive. As suggested at WP:INACTIVEWP you could post on its talk page asking if anyone minds marking it as inactive. If there are no objections, you could then add inactive to the {{WikiProject status}} template at the top of the WikiProject page. Generally on WP, people edit articles they are interested in, so if nobody is interested, poor quality articles do not get improved. TSventon (talk) 14:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a way to grab whether a user is using dark mode or not?

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    For the purposes of a template. Just curious. Thanks in advance! Cessaune [talk] 14:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Cessaune, I feel like I read somewhere that no there's no way to see another editor's preferences, but I can't remember where I read it, when, or what the context would have been. A naive search of VPT's archives came up useless.
    It does seem to me that if this were possible, we probably would have had pallette switching templates for two and a half years already – when the community Dark mode gadget was first deployed – and not be all amess about fixing background colours now that an official extension is available. Folly Mox (talk) 22:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yikes. There's not even a WMF-supported way to do this? Cessaune [talk] 02:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, there's clearly a way for the software to retrieve a user's preferences, since they usually work, and are displayed in Special:Preferences when logged in (specifically, this seems to be :mw:ResourceLoader/Core modules § user.options).
    But very few of these are open to read access by other users. Gender is one, which is accessed by user templates such as {{their}} via the magic word {{GENDER}}. Whether or not you're accessing the website via the mobile frontend isn't really a preference per se, but {{if mobile}} works via <span> tags with class=mobile or class=nomobile attributes that the software interprets, rather than surfacing the user's browser type directly.
    I see people asking each other which skin they're using all the time on VPT, and I'm aware that there's no way to check whether a user has enabled Special:Homepage, per this recent thread. It seems that preferences are mostly inaccessible except through specific developer-implemented endpoints.
    That said, the 2022 community dark mode gadget functions by inverting the colour palette, and the class .mw-no-invert will prevent this to ensure intended colour contrast. The 2024 dark mode extension uses a separate pallette (see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 213 § Dark mode for logged-out users coming soon!).
    mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis might have a solution for your template's use case. Folly Mox (talk) 10:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I need someone to find me a source cus i cant find any

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    Im need someone to get a source about the civil parish abolishment of Eastcotts because im trying to update the cardington page because it still says the raf is in eastcotts 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think you might have better luck asking at the Talk page for the article that you're hoping to edit. At least, you'll have better odds of finding other editors who are specifically interested in that topic. Other editors might chime in here with different suggestions. Good luck! DonIago (talk) 17:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    94, if no one here has a source for you, you might try asking at WP:RD/H, which is more suited to requests for research assistance. Folly Mox (talk) 17:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Although, refs 2 and 3 at Eastcotts seem to support the 1 April 2019 date. Folly Mox (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok ill try that 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Courtesy links: Cardington Airfield (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (permalink) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting repeal of blacklisted title

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    Cary Huang, co-creator of 2010's The Scale of the Universe, redirects to the latter on WP. However, the two brothers themselves--Cary and Michael Huang--do not; page creation is blocked by the title blacklist. About to file an appeal for redirect creation as soon as I'm told where to do so. (Via WP:BFDI--h/t WP:Deletion review/Perennial requests [h/t WP:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:K. Annamalai].) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You can make a request at WP:ANB or WP:RFED. You might want to provide sources that show the brothers are notable together to get a better chance of getting approved. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did it. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 02:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help regarding editing info box of D9-Caffeine

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    Hey everyone. The d9-Caffeine article that I submitted through AFC was accepted about a month. Another editor created the infobox, As I didn't know how to. The issue is as follows

    There are a few things I have spotted in the infobox, that are either not working or wrong. As a new editor I don't know how can I change them, I tried but errors keep popping up. Hence, the cry for help.

    1. The linked CAS Number leads to a webpage (https://commonchemistry.cas.org/detail?cas_rn=72238-85-8) which doesn't contain it. On the other hand, the webpage linked to PubChem (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/13001304) contains CAS number, So if that's something that should be changed.

    2. The formula in the infobox is also something to look into... the formula should contain "D", instead of "H", as its a deuterium based compound. I read at Chemspider (https://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.23935581.html) that the formula is C8HD9N4O2, it contain 1 Hydrogen and 9 deuterium.

    3. Subsequently, the molar mass would be 203.25g·mol−1, instead of 194.194 g·mol−1, as deuterium is heavier than the hydrogen. As a reference (https://crslaboratories.com/products/caffeine-d9) and (https://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.23935581.html)

    I did mention the above issues on the Talk:D9-Caffeine a while ago, however, I haven't got any reply. If someone could change them, and teach me how to do it for the future, I will be very grateful. Thank you! Look2cool (talk) 23:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, I have left the CAS number as is (I assume a page may be created in the future?), and manually entered the formula and molar mass, as it was done on Heavy water
    BloubDeFontenilles (talk) 09:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not experienced with the CAS registry but it appears that the "CAS Common Chemistry" website only contains a fraction of the substances actually registered (0.5 of 165 million). The CAS number is probably correct, I don't know if it's useful to leave it in the infobox though BloubDeFontenilles (talk) 12:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Google search CAS "72238-85-8" finds many sources which say it's the CAS number. I haven't found a source which is actually from CAS so I don't know whether it's correct. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Look2cool Yes, 72238-85-9 is the correct CAS number. As others have said, the Common Chemistry database only a selection of CAS numbers. I'm a member of WP:CHEM (the Wikipedia chemistry Project) and will answer any other questions you have on the Talk Page of the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Michael D. Turnbull I will correspond there. Look2cool (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks everyone for your comments. I know the CAS number is correct, the issue is/was just the website it is hyperlinked with doesn't have it. In the above comment, I provided an alternate link, and was asking, if the CAS number could be linked to that instead. Remaining issues has been solved. Thank you guys a lot. Look2cool (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    September 27

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    Unpublished page

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    Dear Wikipedia editor, I am Txitxa Leo a local musician in central Mozambqiue. Wikipedia is undoubtebly one of the most visited platfoms on earth, therefore, I would like to publish my article which contains my biography in order to make my brand widely known. I am looking to seeing your reaction in order to be satisfied with you appreciable work. TXITXA LEO (talk) 08:16, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    That purpose is exactly the wrong reason to write an article. Using Wikipedia for promotional purposes is not permitted. Furthermore, while not forbidden, writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please read the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, but a place to summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about a topic, showing how it is notable as Wikipedia uses the word, such as a notable musician. I suggest you go on about your life and career as if Wikipedia did not exist; if you truly merit a Wikipedia article, someone will eventually write about you.
    Be advised that there are good reasons to not want an article about yourself. 331dot (talk) 08:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your feedback. Best Regards TXITXA LEO (talk) 09:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wrapping in table columns

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    Can anyone identify why the "Release date" column in the table of episodes on The Adam Buxton Podcast is wrapping, even though "nowrap" is set in the table? I'm not good at this kind of editing. Thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 12:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Popcornfud: Because the table, for some reason, has a fixed width of 35em set on its style attribute. Bazza 7 (talk) 12:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I don't know what that was achieving. I've removed it. Thanks a lot! Popcornfud (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Previous accounts

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    I edited Wikipedia previously under the username User:Otolemur crassicaudatus and User:NGC 2736. I don't use those accounts now. Can I get rollback rights? Under my current account, I have made only 200+ edits. CometVolcano (talk) 16:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @CometVolcano: - suggest you ask at WP:AN. I vaguely recognise the first user name from many years ago, but not the second. Anyway, AN is the correct venue. Mjroots (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't find an article that should be obvious

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    We have the article List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign. I added a couple entries to it a few minutes ago. I count in that lengthy list of anti-Trump Republicans, 87 notable Republicans who endorsed Kamala Harris.

    Looking around for the obvious corollary article List of Democrats who oppose the Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign and couldn't find it, trying variations of the title.

    And yet, if I search the page for the word "democrat" in the article List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign endorsements it turns up 56 hits, about half of them in the article and half in the references.

    So they do exist. Although the list is smaller, it seems even 20 or so notable Democrats supporting Donald Trump is worth a standalone list, ironically maybe even more notable for its small size compared to the list of Republicans who endorse Harris.

    It should exist somewhere, but I am not finding it, and I am hesitant to start such a list article without knowing for sure whether I'm duplicating an effort. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Such a list would be in the "See also" of List of Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign endorsements, so you can be pretty sure it has not yet been written. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Opposing the campaign of your party's nominee is different than endorsing the opponent's campaign. 331dot (talk) 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but that "See also" has List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign, for example. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We do, however, have a list of Republicans who oppose Trump's campaign, and that list also mentions who each Republican endorses (many but not all endorse Harris), so in effect we have both topics in one list. But I couldn't find an article about either subject about Democrats: no list of Democrats who oppose Kamala Harris' campaign, and no list of Democrats who endorse Trump. I figured someone would have written one of them by now, so I thought I'd ask here. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are interested in having such articles written, could you help by providing sources for these articles? Some news about such persons? 176.0.167.84 (talk) 22:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The sources are already cited in List of Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign endorsements. About two dozen are identified as democrats. The sources used there could be used in a new article List of Democrats endorsing the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign or some similar title. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But that is a whole other idea. Opposing its own partys campaign is seldom good. Endorsement of the other partys campaign will occur more often, because if that campaign is especially bad, it will help the own party win. And fans of a party tend to see the own campaign tendencially better than it is, and the other partys campaign tendencially worse than it is. Therefore it's more probable to endorse the other partys campaign than to oppose its own. 176.0.164.155 (talk) 19:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd say that's a false supposition. The majority of List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign do not appear to endorse Harris. Those 80+ who do endorse Harris are not doing so as a backhanded way of benefiting their own party, they have stated clear reasoning for their endorsement. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And another misunderstanding! Endorsing Harris's campaign is not the same as endorsing Harris. 176.0.164.155 (talk) 23:08, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're splitting hairs. The article I linked says they're endorsing Harris.
    This discussion has veered off the initial topic. You may have the last word. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Who determines who gets cancelled company or agent you deal with.

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    2601:244:4380:2910:BEA3:DBB9:3E6B:4633 (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    
    Who determines who gets cancelled the company or the agent you deal with 2601:244:4380:2910:BEA3:DBB9:3E6B:4633 (talk) 17:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello IP editor. This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia, do you have a question about editing wikipedia? -- D'n'B-t -- 18:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Firstly, this is the Help desk asking about problems with editing Wikipedia. You probably need to ask on one of Wikipedia's eight subject-grouped Reference desks.
    Secondly, your query is impossibly vague: it could apply to almost any commercial contract situation, from renting a TV to signing with a professional football club. You will need to give fairly exact details short of naming actual companies, etc. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.86.81 (talk) 18:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Are the reviewers in general just not civil and welcoming?

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    I got a pretty uncivil response from Drmies to a reply I did. Not sure what I did to warrant that

    I’m new and this isn’t very welcoming at all RandomTron (talk) 23:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You admitted on your own talk page that you were intending to use Wikipedia for the purposes of promotion, which is against policy. This is presumably why Drmies was so curt with you. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you AntiDionysius, that’s a much better response! I appreciate you 76.103.237.172 (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Drmies was not curt. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the comment appended to the template was indeed curt. But I do not mean this as a criticism; it strikes me as wholly justified curtness. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Anyone coming to Wikipedia for the purpose of using it as a publicity platform isn't going to be treated in a welcoming manner. Wikipedia is over two decades old, and by now the entire world knows that it cannot be used that way, so the regulars here don't view being new as a valid excuse.
    If you're actually here to build an encyclopedia, then welcome! We need more good editors.
    But if you're here to promote yourself, your company, or your own original ideas, then you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Such editors who persist in their publicity attempts are eventually blocked permanently. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Anachronistic for the civil and informative response! RandomTron (talk) 00:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    RandomTron, see "When a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject", and take "word or phrase" to mean "word, phrase or sentence". (NB "Wikipedia's notability criteria" aren't mine [which are of no importance to Wikipedia] and they're unlikely to be yours [ditto].) Words, phrases and sentences that aren't "encyclopedic subjects" don't merit articles here. Drafts about them will not become articles. -- Hoary (talk) 00:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @RandomTron: Further to the above, the wording used by Drmies is in Template:uw-disruptive3, and is a standard boilerplate used by many editors. There is community consensus that that template and the rest in the set are appropriate for such circumstances.
    Also, if you're going to mention another editor, then you should notify them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    RandomTron, I said "please", didn't I? Drmies (talk) 21:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    September 28

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    Question about user warnings

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    If a user or IP has a particularly egregious instance of vandalism, but is already warned with uw-vand1, is it fair to go to uw-vand4im? The context is a user blanking a majority of the page and adding typical hoax / obvious vandalistic text in its place. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 00:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello @GeorgeMemulous. Normally, users should warn the disruptive editor from Level 1 to 4 and then report them to the WP:AIV if they still continue. However, if their edits are very offensive or disruptive, the usage of the uw-vand4im is normally allowed, even if they haven't been warned all the way. If the IP address's edits seems that offensive, you can give them their "Only warning".
    Per WP:UWLEVELS, it does say that "In cases of gross, extreme, or numerous vandalism it may be appropriate to use the Level 4im warning." 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁=☁=✈) 00:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand that part. I was just wondering whether the "only warning" had to indeed be their only one, whether uw-vand1 or uw-vand2 could force them to go to uw-vand3 instead. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I tend to think that people who issue an only warning, either multiple times or in addition to other warnings, look like they shouldn't be taken seriously. I really don't recommend it. And thank you for actually reading what the warnings say. As for your options, any increase will normally be sufficient. A v2 warning says that a user may be blocked, and I interpret that as a warning that the user may be blocked (of course no warning at all may sometimes be appropriate). -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to activate VisualEditor

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    It seems I can't use VisualEditor (VE) to edit articles despite having the option "Enable the visual editor" activated in my settings. Can someone help? Sabelöga (talk) 04:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Sabelöga We'll see if we can find the problem step-by-step. Go to an article – this one, say – and click "edit". Do you a little pencil in the top right of the editing box that allows you to switch to the visual editor? It should like the picture to the right.
    Cremastra (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cremastra Oh, I see now, the VisualEditor tool is only available with one of the options "Enable the editing toolbar" or "Use the wikitext mode inside the visual editor, instead of a different wikitext editor" activated. Otherwise, the "Visual editing" button isn't visible/available. Maybe I could have activated it somehow anyway, but I didn't get that far. Thanks! Sabelöga (talk) 20:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It can be a bit of a pain to access, which is why I have "show me both editing tabs" enabled. Look at the second dropdown menu at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing under the "Editor" section. Cremastra (talk) 20:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I have also activated it now. Sabelöga (talk) 00:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Racial views of Donald Trump

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    This Wikipedia article is being used by Google when people search for Kamala Harris and her campaign. I never thought that Wikipedia would be used for politics. Lets see every quote some people did not approve of from President Biden or VP Harris. Please search your encyclopedia and rid it of anything being used by a political party and beware of items someone added for that purpose please. TooMuchTroble (talk) 04:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Just a quick answer: Wikipedia isn't WP:CENSORED and hasn't any control over how Google or other search engines display informations. Maresa63 Talk 07:13, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TooMuchTroble: I don't know which Google search you made but given Trump's statements about Kamala Harris, it's natural that she is mentioned in Racial views of Donald Trump. That means the article may be in some search results for Kamala Harris. She is also mentioned in 2875 other articles. We have six million articles and don't decide their content based on how it might be used by various other websites. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TooMuchTroble That ship probably sailed 20 years ago. Take a look at for example Wikipedia coverage of American politics and Wikipedia and the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do you re-enable Page Previews?

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    The "Page Previews" feature (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews) is excellent. I was experimenting with its configuration (as a Logged-out user) and I turned it off via the cog-icon displayed at the bottom of each preview. I would like to turn it back on. The mediawiki page mentioned above says: '... Page Previews ... can be enabled via the "Edit preview settings" link available at the bottom of any wiki page'. I cannot find such a link anywhere. Does anybody know how to re-enables this feature?

    Thank you! Gvvannucci (talk) 05:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Gvvannucci: When logged out I see the link in the desktop version ("Desktop" at the bottom of mobile pages) but not in mobile. If I enable it in desktop then it's still disabled in mobile. I don't know how to enable it in mobile when logged out. It may work to delete browser cookies for wikipedia.org. Logged in users have "Enable page previews" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Making a Article

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    hello I am a ***** and is wondering how to make an article specifically about the other side (the greatest showman song) If anyone has answers pls help, thank you. 180.195.198.48 (talk) 07:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (i) Get plenty of practice in making constructive edits, welcomed (not reverted) by other editors, to articles that already exist. (ii) Check that the subject of your proposed new article is notable (as defined by and for Wikipedia). (iii) Construct a draft that adheres to Wikipedia's principles. (iv) Submit the draft for review. (For more, click on "Learn to edit", a link you'll see on most if not all pages here.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Greatest Showman (soundtrack) has an article, but I'm not sure that the song "The Other Side" would be notable enough for a standalone article.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 08:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Ref number 14 and 17 are both in red. Please fix if you can. I am confused. Sorry, 175.38.37.197 (talk) 09:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You have the date parameter in #14 as just "2024", I think it needs the entire date, which I don't know what it is. 331dot (talk) 09:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Number 17 is only red because no article exists about that media outlet. It doesn't necessarily need fixing. 331dot (talk) 09:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Recovering article

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    Good day how do i recover my article which i am busy working on and accidentally deleted it 41.1.135.6 (talk) 13:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    See the instructions at WP:REFUND. I'm assuming you deleted the article under G7 (user requests deletion)? Otherwise, if somebody else deleted it for some other reason, it's unlikely to be recovered. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you work on said article on a registered account? If so, you can log in and check your contributions (Alt+Y if you're on a Windows device) and see if you can find it there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It should also be noted that if the article wasn't published in any form, i.e. you had typed it in the editor but did not hit Publish, there is no way to recover it. That was stored entirely locally and (to my understanding) had no interaction with Wikimedia servers. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 20:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    corrections to imformation on the first special olympic games 1968

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    You have listed the founders where the Joseph P Kennedy foundation and the Chicago Park district, but you have left out the most IMPORTANT person who also made this happen. This person takes very little credit but deserves to be remember as someone who help get Special Olympic going in Chicago on July 20, 1968. The person is JUDGE ANNE BURKE, without her wisdom and fore site to get this going, there would have never been a Special Olympics. Ask Judge Anne Burke but please add her to the mix. She contacted the Park District not the Kennedy Family. 2601:243:1781:1970:858:55FF:DFCC:9AC2 (talk) 14:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You would be better off posting this at Talk:1968 Special Olympics World Summer Games. Also, it would make everyone's lives much easier if you provided a reliable source, instead of making us "Ask Judge Anne Burke" which would be original research. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, it appears Anne Burke is already mentioned in the first sentence of the Planning section of the article. On Wikipedia, people are typically referred to by their name at the time of the event in question, but here it is noted in the article that Anne McGlone changed their surname to Burke later on. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We have an article about her, Anne M. Burke. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bio article -- Infobox for multi-career person

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    For biographical articles, it seems Infoboxes generally utilize a simple one- or two-word designation relating to the individual's career, or their reason for being notable. Example for, say, "Franky Mozart": Infobox rock musician.

    I want to create an article about a person who had several personal roles, a variegated career. Should I choose one common, pre-existing designation (such as author)? Or can I use several designation words — or even devise a single-world designation that might encompass several of this person's career roles? Thanks. Joel Russ (talk) 19:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Joel Russ: {{Infobox person}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Qian Xuesen on the cover of Aviation Week & Space Technology

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    The biographical article on Qian Xuesen is somewhat controversial. In short: he did pioneering rocketry work first in the United States and later in China. One fundamental aspect of that is his return to China in 1955 under strained circumstances. Related to that is how, long after the fact, the importance of his work was acknowledged by rocketry experts in the United States. That acknowledgement is now widespread and undisputed, and is wonderfully exemplified by his being selected as the 2007 Aviation Week & Space Technology person of the year. It would greatly improve the article if we could include a thumbnail of the cover art for the January 07, 2008 edition of AW&ST. It appears here: https://aviationweek.com/cover-245 and it seems like at that size it meets all the criteria for fair use in the context of the biographical article. The award is mentioned in the text of the article, and there are no available alternate images of him at the time in his life depicted by this image. Would someone with more experience in fair use of sketches that are historically important please shepherd me through the steps required to do this without adding fair-use controversy to an already somewhat controversial article? (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 20:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sdsds, policy and precedent are pretty clear on this per WP:NFCI. We cannot use non-free images of a person when a freely licensed or public domain image is available, as is the case here. Countless notable people have appeared on magazine covers but we can use those images only if the copyright has expired. In most cases in the United States, this appplies to images published before 1929. There are exceptions, though. Copyright renewal used to be required although it no longer is. Time magazine failed to renew their copyrights on a timely basis, and as a result, most of their covers before 1936 are in the public domain. Barring dramatic changes in copyright law, that image will remain under copyright until the year 2103. Cullen328 (talk) 23:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Although you cannot use the image itself, you could include an external link to the image at the end of the article for curious readers. Cullen328 (talk) 23:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah good idea, thanks! I also sent email to the artist credited with the portrait, asking for explicit permission to use it, i.e. put the small-size version into the public domain. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 01:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, and yet we do not have (nor can we plausibly obtain) an image of him during this important phase of his life, i.e. when he was in PLA uniform. This ties the image to the controversy discussed in the article. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 01:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sdsds, the credit for the illustration says Scott Marshall of the AW&ST Art Dept. That means that the illustration is almost certainly a Work for hire. If so, then Aviation Week and Space Technology is almost certainly the copyright holder instead of Marshall, according to U.S. copyright law. Cullen328 (talk) 06:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can use this source?

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    I was going through articles on the Singapore Infopedia (example: this and this) for research and I noticed that at the bottom of the page, there's a statement that says "The information on this page and any images that appear here may be used for private research and study purposes only. They may not be copied, altered or amended in any way without first gaining the permission of the copyright holder". I'm assuming it means that I'm not allowed to use it because it would violate copyright laws unless if I get permission from the NLB? Most articles on Singapore that I've seen cite the Infopedia. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Imbluey2, citing a reliable source, and then summarizing it your own words is not a copyright violation. Avoid close paraphrasing. I do not know whether or not Infopedia is a reliable source. That is another matter. Cullen328 (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I suppose you are right (and yes, the Infopedia is a reliable source, it cites information from other sources in its article and it was made for educational purposes). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Imbluey2, "Singapore Infopedia" is perhaps a reliable source. I don't know; I haven't investigated. But neither citing info from other sources nor being made for educational purposes nor the combination of these two makes it a reliable source. (Consider "Conservapedia". This cites info from other sources and claims to be made for educational purposes; but, to put it mildly, it's not a reliable source.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Imbluey2 I looked at the two examples you linked and both have extensive sets of references at the foot of their pages. I'd do the same as I would if I saw something in a Wikipedia article, bearing in mind that Wikipedia is not a reliable source: I would evaluate the sources used for myself and use them rather than Infopedia as citations. As Cullen328 said, recasting information from sources into your own words doesn't violate copyright. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    September 29

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    I need to remove my ip address

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    I didnt realize that my ip address would be published when I edited an article. I am a new user. Marvmish (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Marvmish: see Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ#How to request suppression for how to request that. TSventon (talk) 02:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Marvmish (talk) 02:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Proper capitalization for title of reference with capitalized by H1 tag.

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    I'm working on DECA (organization) and have been trying to track down when the Collegiate Division of DECA stopped being referred to as Delta Epsilon Chi. I walked my way through archive.org until I found https://web.archive.org/web/20100708034614/http://deca.org/news/14/ . Clearly a press release, I thought the title of the reference should be the header of the Press Release, shown on the page as DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION. However, when I did a copy/paste, it pasted as DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission . When I went to the source of the web page, it appears to be in all capital letters because it is in an <h1></h1> pairing. So should the title for the reference be in ALL CAPS or not? (And I'm coming to the help desk because I have *no* idea where else makes sense to ask?)Naraht (talk) 02:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Naraht there's normally no reason to look at the HTML of a web page that's a putative source for an article. Whatever the means by which the browser shows (shouts) "DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION", please ignore the shouty caps --just as you'd ignore the color if this weren't black, the typeface, centring, etc. Render it as either "DECA Announces Expanded Focus and Programs; New Mission" or (my preference by far) "DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission". Incidentally, the H1 tag does not capitalize in any browser I've encountered, though CSS may cause it to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 07:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    I was attempting to disambiguate links to Flag of Amazonas, but in the two pages that have the DAB links, I cannot work out how the link is made. The pages are: Amazonas Province (Brazil) and Amazonas (Venezuelan state). In both cases, the link is in the caption ("Flag") for the flag image in the infobox. Is the link coming from metadata in the flag images used somehow? Or in the infobox template? Or something completely different? Any advice appreciated. AukusRuckus (talk) 03:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @AukusRuckus: The link is made by {{Infobox settlement}}. You can override the target for the link by setting the flag_link parameter. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Duplicate arguments in template calls

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    I added two categories within a userbox regarding two web browsers in this edit here. That resulted in Category:Wikipedians who use Waterfox being placed in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. But the other category added in the userbox Category:Wikipedians who use Mozilla Firefox does not end up in the duplicate argument category. I can't figure it out. What did I do wrong? Why are not both affected? Or is there anything wrong really? --Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden: I seem to have fixed it with this edit to Template:User Waterfox, another of the templates displayed on the category page. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @John of Reading: I just spotted it incognito and wrote a draft that it had been fixed, then your reply popped up here in my logged in window after I clicked edit source ;) The issue didn't come from the userbox I thought it was, but one I edited a couple of hours earlier. But I didn't see that hidden category about duplicate arguments until after my edit on Template:User Firefox and Waterfox, so I thought the issue came from my latest edit. Perhaps it took some hours before it was registered and showed up. Or I just didn't notice. I saw the duplicate arguments just now, and it all makes perfect sense. Also cool to learn that it is possible to wikilink to a diff. Thank you. --Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Seems to be having problems that perhaps will last awhile. Does anyone have a decent substitute to recommend? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't we have TurnItIn credits? I think that's the next best option, but no idea how to use it. I think there was a discussion a few months back about how AI requests are using up all of Earwig's API calls by the middle of the month, but I don't remember where, or if any action resulted. Folly Mox (talk) 17:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Finding the correct tag

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    What's the tag({{}}) i need to enter if an article contain direct word to word copy-paste content from another article outside wiki? VihirLak007 (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi! Assuming the content comes from a website that is not Wikipedia, you can use {{cc-notice}} on the references section: {{Cc-notice|cc=[insert license here (0/by4/bysa4/...)]|url=[insert URL here]}} Try making sure the URL is a permanent link to a version of the page if it is part of an editable wiki. ObserveOwl (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (Pinging VihirLak007.) ObserveOwl (talk) 16:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @VihirLak007 and ObserveOwl: if content is copy-pasted from another website, then generally that will be a copyright violation and the process at Wikipedia:Copyright violations should be followed. {{cc-notice}} should be used for material that has been copied into Wikipedia as permitted under a compatible Creative Commons license. TSventon (talk) 19:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's correct, thanks. I assumed they were talking about copying from other wikis. ObserveOwl (talk) 19:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unable to Use Translation Tool on English Wikipedia

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    I'm trying to translate an article about the company where I work from the Spanish Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia. However, I receive the following message: "On the English Wikipedia this tool is limited to extended confirmed editors, and the machine translation component is disabled for all users." I have a registered account that is over 4 days old and has more than 10 edits, but I'm still unable to use the translation tool. Could someone please assist me in understanding how to gain the necessary permissions or suggest alternative methods for translating and creating the article? Thanks you. Sabilla27 (talk) 15:41, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Sabilla27 as explained at WP:EXTENDED "A registered editor becomes extendedconfirmed automatically on edit after the account has existed for at least 30 days and has made at least 500 edits" although your account was created over 10 years ago, you only have 42 edits, far short of the 500 required.
    As for alternate methods, firstly, I suggest you check your company meets the English Wikipedia requirements for companies, at WP:NCORP as these are more onerous than those on most other language Wikipedias. If you think your employer meets these then you need to make a Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure as you were advised in 2021.
    I dislike most "auto-translate" methods, but you could copypaste into Word + translate that, correcting all the templates and references, and crediting the source as Spanish WP. - Arjayay (talk) 16:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Sabilla27. One of the reasons that the translation tool is often not useful for English Wikipedia, is that (as Arjayay said), English Wikipedia often has stricter requirements about notability and sourcing than other language versions. While I haven't looked at them closely (and my Spanish is limited), in my opinion the sources in es:Metricool are nowhere near adequate for an article in English Wikipedia - and if the sources are inadequate, any article will be inadequate, and therefore any translation of the Spanish article in its present form will be unacceptable.
    Most of the sources (and all the sources that are to be used to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria on notability) must meet all three of the conditions of being reliable, independent, and having significant coverage of the subject (see WP:42 for more detail). Only two of the references there (nos. 2 and 7) even might be acceptable - the rest are either not independent of Metricool, or are blogs.
    Note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
    Also, the article has external links, which are hardly ever allowed inside the text in English Wikipedia, except in citations.
    I recommend you treat this as creating a new article - which is difficult for an inexperienced user, and much more difficult for a user with a conflict of interest such as yourself.
    In summary:
    • first of all , please read about paid editing, and make the mandatory formal declaration of your status as a paid editor.
    • Then please read translation and your first article, and start a completely new draft by finding the sources you need. (They don't have to be in English, or online, but they have to be reliable, totally independent of Metricool, and having significant coverage of the company).
    ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Iamge and caption not working in infobox

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    I need help. I uploaded an image for the Dexter episode Love American Style and the caption and image section just isn't working and I've tried so many different things but neither is showing and it is making me very irritated. Could you please tell me what is wrong or correct the situation? Thanks. 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 16:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi 1zdoqnrh5 - as it clearly states when you preview your edit (you do preview your edits, don't you?) "Warning: Love American Style (Dexter) (edit) is calling Template:Infobox television episode with more than one value for the "image" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. (Help)" - so as it explained you needed to delete the second "image" parameter - which I have done, so it works. - Arjayay (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm still kind of new to this editing thing so admittedly I do not preview edits. But thank you for your help. 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 16:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Spider in my room (Canada)

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    There’s this yellow and brown spider I took a picture of it and it told me too look up American grass spider but it came up in the search a a rabid spider 🕷️ @Aerol Leason I just don’t know how too add the picture please and sorry and please and thank you Diamonds 0666 (talk) 16:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Not in the Help Desk's pervue - try asking at the WP:Reference Desk. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Diamonds 0666: Try uploading it to INaturalist. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    We need an update on wikipedia pages about areas in Bedfordshire

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    I've recently been looking at Wikipedia pages about areas in the electoral ward of Eastcotts and I am disappointed about the pages of Cardington and the second paragraph of Harrowden and more. These pages need to be updated. They still say that they are in the civil parish of eastcotts, which is not true because the parish abolishment of eastcotts was in 2019. I am struggling to find sources to tell the truth about them. We need to join together to stop this. 94.194.31.200 (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, IP user. It's great that you want to make sure Wikipedia is up to date, but no, it is not a major emergency, and we do not need to "join together and stop this". Also, much as we would sometimes like it to be about truth, Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth.
    We are all volunteers, and work on what we want to work on. Wikipedia is riddled with out-of-date information and outright mistakes, and many of us will correct them when we come across them. But, as you've found, doing so often involves searching for sources, which can be difficult and time consuming.
    I would have thought that a civil parish being abolished would have been reported in local papers, no? ColinFine (talk) 17:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    yea i get you colin. I couldn't find sources anywhere 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If it was papers i would have to send in a screenshot as a citation mate 😂 94.194.31.200 (talk) 17:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well no, see WP:OFFLINE. Also, a lot of old newspapers are in internet archives these days, often WP:PAYWALLED like British Newspaper Archive but still. Things like google drive can be useful in sharing sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see that citation 2 in Eastcotts says unequivocally that "The parish of Eastcotts shall be abolished". So what is it that you are missing? ColinFine (talk) 19:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Its other pages in the ward of eastcotts that im talking about, for example cardington 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That article says otherwise 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Most of the RAF training station is in the parish of Eastcotts, as is the settlement of Shortstown," 2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6 (talk) 19:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    117.248.153.49 (talk) 20:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Frances Kesselbein's page

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    The link at the bottom of the page which should be Frances Kesselbein's Leadership Forum seems to link to something else entirely. I'm not sure who can/should check or fix that. Thanks 96.255.127.16 (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    IP editor, thank you, it seems the website moved to a new .pitt.edu website and the old site has been used for advertising, so I have updated the link. TSventon (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request that the article on the Pawn programming language be reconsidered

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    Dear Wikipedia administrators,

    I am writing to request that the article on the Pawn programming language be reconsidered for a featured article nomination. I believe that this topic is worthy of a more in-depth exploration, particularly given its significant role in game development for embedded systems. The history of Pawn and the reasons behind its popularity among developers would make for a fascinating and informative read.


    Thank you for your time and consideration. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 21:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please help @Midori No Sora Putu Suhartawan (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Administrators have no more power over featured article nominations than any other editor.
    It is unclear what you are trying to do here, because there are many things that are confusing or wrong about your comment
    1. Pawn (programming language) does not exist (and was deleted); you linked to a draft in your userspace.
    2. Featured articles are the very best of Wikipedia articles and they pass through rigorous review processes. Your userspace draft would not be considered because it is a draft. You would have to move it to mainspace, but frankly it is definitely not featured article quality.
    3. You say you want the draft to be "reconsidered" which implies you nominated it for featured article status in the past and it failed. This, as far as I can tell, is not the case.
    So, @Putu Suhartawan can you explain what you want to happen here? Cremastra (talk) 23:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Clarifcation on Options to hide an image

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    Can any of you guys clarify on what the following means?

    Disable images in search widget for certain skins

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    Search result images can be turned off by altering the respective common.css for the skin being used and adding a rule to not display background images for spans of the class .wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail. For example:

    span.wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail {
      background-image:none !important;    
    }
    

    2601:8C:401:6020:FC17:186C:4AF4:5263 (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]