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Muse potshot: "how not to produce"

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This article states that Matt Bellamy was taking a cheeky potshot at Rubin by thanking him for teaching the band "how not to produce" during his speech, and this is corroborated by numerous contemporaneous small articles in 2010. However, this source at musewiki cites an interview available on youtube posted in 2018 where Muse reveals new information, stating that they have respect for Rubin, and the comment at the awards show was not meant to be a potshot; instead, it was meant as a self-deprecating remark that implied Rubin truly schooled them in production before leaving the Resistance project for other reasons. The comment can indeed be interpreted both ways, and likely was interpreted either of both ways by the audience at the time since Matt Bellamy's delivery leaves the intention ambiguous. This may be a case of a botched delivery that was allowed to stand, or a case of Muse revising history to make amends years after the speech by claiming a different intention. Either way, there may be enough information now to smooth over this note and its salience to the article as a whole is reduced.

Early Life

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Some of the details about his early life need citations, i.e. the Pricks, Steve Freeman, etc. Can anyone verify that that's for real? Tooptoo (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hey i removed the part bout sound clipping, b/c thats a record company's fault not the producers.--70.246.18.216 06:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A picture of the man. He appeared in Jay-Z's 99 problems video, so a good image should be easy.

The def/death analysis is seriously flawed. Wikipedia claims that the slang word "def" comes from definitive rather than death, and even if the word is related to death it is highly unlikely that Rick Rubin didn't know what he was doing when he came up with the name "Def Jam."

as far as i know, the labels name came from a street phrase he kept hearing around, "death jam", used as in "this is the jam of death!" - in the then popular trend of using negative describers as positive (ie, sick, wicked), but he misheard the pronunciation as 'def' and went with it. where to find backing evidence is beyond me tho carlos 05:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Def Jam' means 'Great Music' according to the NYTimes interview with Rubin; "calling his company Def Jam ("Def" meaning great, and "Jam" meaning music)" http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/magazine/02rubin.t.html?pagewanted=7&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1188835612-uDXZ3gMjNlnrCXZZ/+yfbA

So the "def" basically means definitive, not "death" metal or a positive negative. 218.102.86.91 16:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Hamo[reply]

The list of produced albums would need to be completed / updated. So far, i can list :

- "12 songs" (Neil Diamond) 2006 - "Streetcore" (Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros) 2003 - "Hell Awaits" (Slayer) 1985 - "Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan" (Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan) 2001 (the latter supposed to be a rerelease of an album recorded at American in 1997, but i couldn't ascertain M. Rubin was producer at that time)

and there's probably a bunch of albums still missing on top of that.

-- Rickydrier 00:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I personally find this man a huge leader in music and everything he touches turns to gold, keep it up Rick

This is not Usenet.--Deadworm222 21:36, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Good observation.

There should be a list of who and what he has worked on, a list of artists and songs.

The Album Deconstruction by Eric Avery, Dave Navarro (both from Jane's Addiction), and Michael Murphy (drummer that joined them) needs to be added to the list of albums that Rick Rubin has produced.

He is credited as "Executive Producer" on the album.

Here is the original wikipedia text on Dave Navarro's info that talks about "Deconstruction":

"Navarro then formed Deconstruction with Avery on vocals/bass and Michael Murphy on drums and the band put out one self-titled album before breaking up. Navarro joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1993. Around this time he revealed that he considered himself to be bisexual."

There is virtually no information regarding this album on Wikipedia. This project only resulted in one album and ended. This album is considered by many a Jem.

He's executive-produced a lot of albums, basically everything that's been put out on Def American and American Recordings. I don't know whether it's worth it to list all of them. Korny O'Near 19:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
An executive producer can just be somebody who finances the project in return for a financial reward.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 22:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gay?

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He's never been married. There are straight bachelors like David Souter and Philip Seymour Hoffman. Still, I do wonder if there's a reason behind his never having been married. Just curious. jcm 6/12/8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.228.129.9 (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georg Clooney has never been married. Does that mean he might be gay? What a load of BS. --80.133.231.20 (talk) 13:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
George Clooney has been married before. Just so you know... :) 69.87.160.2 (talk) 00:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

many people never married but the're not gay, marriage is old fashion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.208.215.216 (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Bring The Noise"

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Rubin may have executive produced the original Public Enemy recording of "Bring The Noise", but he had absolutely nothing to do with the Anthrax/Public Enemy collaborative version done in 1991. I replaced that incorrect "fact" with a cover version that he did indeed produce. --CJ Marsicano 21:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, you may be right. I got that "fact" from this page of the MTV feature, which gives the impression that the collaboration was his idea. Korny O'Near 16:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Audio level compression"

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"audio compression" is not necessarily a characteristic of Rubin's production. This happens at the mastering level, where the waveform is levelled and maximised, and "valleys" are eliminated, resulting in a "squashed", over-loud, sound. Rubin has no input at this level; mastering engineers work for the label, not the artists and producers. Blood Sugar Sex Magic was mastered beautifully, as was the original South of Heaven CD in 1988 (mastered by Barry Diament). Many, many artists' CDs are maximised and very loud, but the "produced by..." doesn't have much to do with this. Rubin-produced Stadium Arcadia is coming out on limited edition vinyl, mastered by Steve Hoffman. --D. Kapusta 18:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slayer "Hell Awaits"

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Rubin did not produce Slayer's Hell Awaits. That produced by Brian Slagel and Slayer. --D. Kapusta 18:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The Faint"

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Can anyone provide a valid source of confirmation that Rick Rubin is indeed producing The Faint's next album? I could not personally find factual statements in which either Rubin, The Faint, or Saddle Creek Records has confirmed this. Any type of citation would be appreciated. --Felixir 13:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

opening paragraph

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He currently is best known for producing every Red Hot Chili Peppers album since the groundbreaking Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

really? i came here looking for info on his colaboration w/ johnny cash... did someone just throw that in there b/c they love the chili peppers, or because this is really taken to be his biggest work?

Actually his first major break through was with the Beastie boys.CraigP 06:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Soundgarden's "Superunknown"

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He did not produce this record; it was produced by Michael Beinhorn. I think several other items on the list are suspect as well... -Daniel Villalobos 20:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite Request

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The Production Trademarks section is highly opinionated. I don't know Rick Rubin's history well enough to change much, but I am going to try to rewrite some of the wording to be less subjective. -Patrick Farrell 03:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also the language needs to be fixed... this entry is filled with so many creatively (read: incorrectly) used verbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.65.32.21 (talk) 08:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Metallica's next album

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in the text it says that their next album is going to be called "St. Anger Chapter II: Angry Once Again" i couldn't find that information anywhere else on the web, so i wonder whether that is true, or if someone just tried to spread a rumor.

we need a picture of this guy

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-ishmaelblues

- Here's one: http://www.nndb.com/people/920/000110590/rick-rubin.jpg (I'm not sure how to add it to the page so I'll leave it for someone else if the picture's appropriate) -StCroix

This year's photos show him *much* thinner. Should get a thinner photo in here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.108.186 (talk) 04:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Split

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That list is insanely long and I guarantee that no GA or FA has a list like that. We could leave a few of the more notable albums in prose and then reference the list somewhere, like See also, or main article . . . Its just too darn long. What does everyone think? A mcmurray 18:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah needs to be split, if not then table it or something to make it more compressed. Also really need a pic on this one. Notadar (talk) 02:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like all artists, who have a page for their discography, it should be the same here, and especially that it is a long list. Samer 819 (talk) 21:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, a seperate discography article is a must.... Roger Workman (talk) 16:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Executive Producer

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It says that he executive produced The Black Crowes' career launching hit "Hard To Handle" there's two things wrong with that. First off, their first single was Jealous Again. And secondly Rick Rubin did not executive produce that single. The whole album was produced by George Drakoulias, after the first million copies were sold he put his name on the album saying "Executive Producer: Rick Rubin". He did not have anything to do with the actualy production of Shake Your Money Maker. crowes.garden 10:10pm, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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Well, he lost a lot of weight recently and looks totally different, so this picture shouldn't be used anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.108.178 (talk) 23:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Family and personal life

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Apart from stating that he has Jewish roots, and a very brief mention of his parents professions, there is nothing on the article about his family. It is not even stated if his parents are dead or alive, nor if he has any siblings. There is also nothing about his personal relationships, past or present. Facts about his family and relationships should be included in a biographical article. Werdnawerdna (talk) 04:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yea! What was that "big purchase" that got Rick Rubin into NYU??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.226.146 (talk) 03:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

chuck berry

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I want to know how tell rubin that he has to produce n album to chuck berry, that will be fantastic, chuck didn't records a new album since 1979, he need come back to studios with rubin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.208.215.216 (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dope (Lady Gaga song)

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Perhaps some mention of the song he produced with Lady Gaga should be included somewhere in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayukins (talk • contribs) 18:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Other endeavors besides music

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He was the principle backer behind Smokey Mountain Wrestling 67.81.173.78 (talk) 02:02, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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more citation needed tags in "career:def jam"

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there are a lot of facts & happenings with no citations in the career section. the story about how Rubin met Russell thru jazzy Jay is even disputed in the Def Jam article. need more citations or it should say citation needed more places 74.14.155.2 (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing text about Def Jam founding and first release

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I am seeing two similar sets of statements with apparently contradictory facts about the chronology of Def Jam's founding and what its first release was. This may be the result of unclear presentation, but as I am not familiar with the subject matter (as many readers would not be), I thought I should bring it to attention here in the hope that someone can clarify and ultimately improve this section of the article. The following are consecutive portions of the text with just one area removed (denoted by "[...]") so you can hopefully see what I mean:

Rubin founded Def Jam Recordings while in college at New York University.[7] He moved on to form the band Hose, influenced by San Francisco's Flipper. In 1982, a Hose track became Def Jam's first release, a 45 rpm 7" vinyl single in a brown paper bag, and no label.[8] [...] Jazzy Jay introduced Rubin to concert promoter/artist manager Russell Simmons in the Negril club, and Rubin explained he needed help getting Def Jam off the ground. Simmons and Rubin edged out Jazzy Jay and the official Def Jam record label was founded while Rubin was attending New York University in 1984. Its first release was LL Cool J's "I Need a Beat". Al Begamut (talk) 15:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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